psl finder

[meeem]

THE PSL FINDER Find a partner to carry out a private storyline together via a musebox, journals, memes, or whatever your preferred method. Ask for AUs you'd like, characters you're looking for, and anything else you want. Use the form below for your convenience. <b>Characters:</b> <b>Contact:</b> <b>Seeking:</b> <b>Verse Ideas:</b> <b>Other:</b>

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[sirintegra]

Characters:
goro takemura / cyberpunk 2077 / arasakadogs
sandayu oda / cyberpunk 2077 / arasakadogs
integra hellsing / hellsing / sirintegra
ushii / juuni taisen / killingsystematically
ryoko hakubi / tenchi muyo! / galacticdemon
douma / kimetsu no yaiba / lotusandlies
yuuta okkotsu / jujutsu kaisen / cursedprodigy

Contact: pm on the respective accounts, discord @ cranebrulee / cranebrulee#0899

Seeking:
for goro and/or oda: castmates, especially any and all v's to exasperate them. my white whale is a hanako arasaka for oda. also into complicated relationships with themes of duty, misplaced loyalty, etc. m/f for shipping.

for integra: certainly castmates. would love to have more threads with castevania folks with potential for aus. open to non-sexual shipping as she is celibate unless discussed beforehand (aus)

for ushii: slow burn shipping much loved for him. a tiger would be a+ but open to crossovers and aus for sure.

for ryoko: honestly anything fun! no strings attached smut, aus, you name it. would love to interact with more bnha folks with her as a quasi-villain/vigilante.

for douma: castmates for either canon or a hashira au, also can do modern aus. I would love, love to do more with his asoiaf au (he is a visiting priest-king from yi ti, known as "the undying priest" because he strangely cannot die rumored to be cursed (or blessed) by the gods...or something else entirely.) I love, love, love an arranged marriage trope but open to gen as well!

for yuuta: castmates, my kingdom for a maki (would love to ship tbh). open to crosscanon stuff too but nothing specific on the wishlist atm.

Verse Ideas: already mentioned above but I am always open to other ideas.

Other: I work full time and have two kiddos so my writing time can be a little sporadic. please tell me if I miss a tag!

[boneface]

Characters:
- ryuji sakamoto | persona 5 | boneface
- ryotaro dojima | persona 4 | coffeemug
- akihiko sanada | persona 3 | mazios

Contact: pm or discord! pm for discord!

Seeking:
- for ryuji: more crosscanon! gen or ships! would love to do more adult!ryuji stuff and just play out what that might be like. also interested in doing some age difference stuff with him. bc i am a degenerate.

- for dojima: just want to ship with him! he's a small town detective with a young daughter and a widower who is not over the death of his wife yet. he's pretty earnest and a Good Guy and has faith in people even when they betray him. he's also very Dad. if that sounds interesting to anyone to play off of, hmu. would loooove to do more terrible age gap shit with him 🙈 oops

- for akihiko: really want to do more m/m with him! crosscanon or castmates, i'm fine with either. i just like the idea of him exploring his sexuality and realizing he might be gay/bi.

Verse Ideas:

things i'm into: soulmate au, a/b/o, immortal/mortal, vampire/werewolf/supernatural au, teacher/student, reincarnation, incest au, so on and so forth. kink list is here.

Other: WHOOOOO ELSE IS EXCITED FOR PERSONA 3 RELOAD

[fruitknife]

Still wanna do 'P3 but it's werewolves' sometime. Just putting that out there.

[amhran]

Characters:
Female Muses
Caoimhe ／ DND (Home Brew Setting ) ／ amhran
BB ／ FATE GO ／ devilishkouhai
Nana ／ FFXIV or OC ／ knightglow

Male Muses
Lancelot du Lac ／ FATE OC ／ alligatus

Contact:
Message me here or reach out to me through witchcess
You can read my kinks and shit here

Seeking:
- Romantic inclined PSLs, Hurt/Comfort, or angst. I enjoy slow burns, but I don't mind speaking about pre establish feelings then moving into scenarios to explore.
- Potential manipulative / abusive situations for characters like Lancelot, BB, or Caoimhe.
- Nothing just straight NSFW unless I know you already and you wanna jump into that, let me know.
- I enjoy crazy thought out ideas, hit me baby with them.

- I want to roleplay Caoimhe more cross canon, where she is 'reborn' in your characters verse. But has nightmares about a being that keeps trying to drag her back where she came from. Due to her original self holding back a BBEG.
- I would love to explore her warlock!verse which is pretty angsty and her trying to come back to herself.
- Caoimhe is a genuine good girl, because the world is bitter and I am depressed so i wanted to make a cute character. so any cute CR where she can help others over come things, or hurt / comfort. Over coming challenges - etc. Good serotonin inducing feels chef kiss. y ou know.
- but also feel free to bully her, you have my consent.

- Any Arthuriana muses.
- A Guinevere, willing to work with your own conception I just want to finalize things together if possible.
- Morgan le Fae, willing to just work with ur own ideas as well.
- My lancelot has some dragon stuff to his story so if you are into that, hand motions.

- zenos, just kinda wanna write about how much Nana hated / loved him.
- Nana has an oc canon verse, its more DND if anyone is interested in roleplaying with a excourtesan now knight.

Verse Ideas:
Other then what I spoke of - nothing. But if you ask about a verse, I can cook up something so don't be shy to bring up stuff.

Other:
- Cross canon & Original characters are welcomed and beloved.
- I like someone who has a lot to talk about and want to share. I prefer a bit of prose in our threads and don't want it to be straight action exchanging.
- I have a preference for M/F but am okay with writing F/F and M/M!
- I am pretty active atm, sometimes it may take me time to reply to things especially characters like Lancelot who take brain cells to make them talk the way they do lol.

I already have good stuff going on, so I am just looking for a few more things to satisfy an itch or two. (∩✪-✪)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ ok ty for reading.

[aetherialshackles]

I am about to leave the house but we totally have to write, at some point, a thread of Nana and Erich just being good buddies- and maybe sprinkling in some Hurt/Comfort, or angst.

[dethangel]

Characters: Toki Wartooth (Metalocalypse)
Contact: pm, comment

Seeking: Castmates especially! Any and all! Bring 'em on! Shipping, smut, or plain ol' palling around! I'm always especially interested in exploring Toki's relationship with Skwisgaar, but putting any of these dumbasses together in any way is a good time, from deeply emotional seriousness to extremely absurd silliness. Let's reenact Mutilation On A Saturday Night.
Verse Ideas: Still trying to be vague about movie spoilers in case people haven't seen it, so I don't wanna get too specific, but if you know, post-movie stuff could be really interesting, as well as various what-ifs. Told you I didn't wanna get too specific. There's a lot I'm like WOW I WANNA DO THIS about but also. Gotta be careful. Hit me up and we'll discuss. Here, have a kinklist for the spicy stuff.

Other: movie movie movie movie movie movie

[tanse]

Characters:

louis | barbarities

Contact:

pm / discord available upon request

Seeking:

if anyone plays gil, i'm dying to explore their extremely toxic relationship...! but i'm honestly looking for cross-canon threads to sink my teeth into, especially if some power imbalance/fucked up dynamics are involved. more info re: louis can be found here, but in short: as the heir to the throne of what is basically fantasy russia, louis initially appears to be little more than a spoiled, hedonistic noble with a silver tongue - BUT dig a bit deeper and you'll find that he's a schemer, a scammer, a careful planner who has to stay a step ahead of everyone to protect both himself and the, like, two people he cares for. politics can be dangerous! who knew! he certainly isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, because he knows what he wants and he'll stop at nothing to attain it.

in that vein, any fellow nobles would be fantastic? or knightly characters who may not agree with louis' methods and/or goals, but find themselves bound to him anyway. as the crown prince, louis is surrounded by (and dislikes) sycophants; it's rare for him to find someone who isn't trying to suck up to him for personal or political gain, so when he comes across someone who can't quite hide their disinterest or disdain, he can't help but to be Intrigued...

Verse Ideas:

i can make him work in just about every setting, so long as there are some politics at play! give me a canon and we can work out the details - or we can just come up with some entirely new world, because that's the magic of rp, baybee. for more specific scenarios, i love: fake dating, arranged marriage, reluctant soulmates, captive prince-esque situations, vampire and/or monster aus, political maneuvering, one-sided or mutual manipulation, darker themes in general, etc. i'm open to a lot, honestly!

Other:

i'm an est-based tagger who keeps wild hours! i aim for a lengthy tag every day or so, but i'm quicker with, like, texting threads - and i'm a-okay with backtagging, so there's never a rush. if you're interested or have any questions whatsoever, feel free to pm me!

[alligatus]

tentatively places lancelot here... i know nothing about louis but can brush up on reading what you have written down on your page about your canon. I am hungry for some toxic relationships and if you are open for a fandom oc. Or I can just run him as a oc... Depending on what you want to cook. It might be interesting to drop these two together?

[5guys]

Characters: a2 | nier: automata | abandonware
five | drakengard 3 | strumpet
oerba yun fang | final fantasy xiii | transgressed
suletta mercury | gundam: the witch from mercury | forgetta
tilda van der meer | horizon forbidden west| rijksmuseum

Contact: PM any of my journals or you can add me on plurk: gravesinger

Seeking:
in general: just looking for more meme & psl partners overall! i don't play in games so memes and psls are all i do really. gen, shipping and smut are a-ok with me; the only character i don't play smut with is suletta (unless there's a miomio out there, in which case hmu). as far as shipping, i will play both f/f and f/m, with tilda being f/f only.

for a2: more castmate interactions, particularly postcanon or nier reincarnation divergences? would love to do divergent timeline stuff in general. ships! of all stripes. a2's a slow burn character with a great deal of war and combat related trauma, so takes a while to warm up. my preference is not to jump directly into smut because her body isn't designed for it for starters and it requires some discussion/auing, but i would love to do more ships with her. human/android interactions would be rad. she loves humans, unfortunately, though she may not always show it. modern aus, human aus, a2 is human for a little while and is in awe, etc. complicated knight and charge adjacent relationships are a good bet for her. she is small but tanklike and nigh unkillable.

for five: would give an arm and a leg for her big sisters ESPECIALLY Four and One... I need the psychological weirdness these two provide specifically, but if any of her sisters are out there she'll gladly accept them into her bosom (stares off...). Modern aus would be fun for her too. she's a silly guy and not especially smart so more humorous threads with her are always a blast if you can deal with her being a bimbo and breasting boobily all over the place.

also, smut. Five's pretty easy and good for NSA sex or ridiculous sexual situations, but she comes with a lot of warnings. she is a violent control freak, gets abnormally and quickly attached if shown legitimate kindness or patience, will torture a sexual partner (usually men) to death if given a chance to do so, has an incestuous fixation on her sisters, is not above using force to obtain sex, has daddy issues... it's all bad over here. women have a better chance of not getting buffalo billed but she's also a misogynist, so. like. if you are up for that please hit me up! i know she's a lot. All this being said, she does have an actual conscience somewhere deep down and I would like to explore the aspects of her character that deal with her sense of emptiness and feeling incomplete. would love some kind of memloss thing with her too. I think it would be interesting.

for fang: i got nothing specific! just more threads would be fun for her - i love shipping/smut but gen and castmate interactions would be a blast. i have a goddess au for fang as well as a villain au for her, so either would be great to explore in memes and psls.

for suletta: more threads for sure! castmates! crosscanon mecha pilot cr... writing suletta as an actual witch since the canon barely did anything with that, the sky's the limit.

for tilda: tilda's much more cerebral and older than the others here, so characters in her age range would be welcome. fellow art enthusiasts, other morally ambiguous characters. would love a mentor/student sort of dynamic for her with a younger person, with optional shipping since she's not above manipulating someone younger. as mentioned above, she's f/f only. would absolutely love more castmate interactions as well.

Verse Ideas: a/b/o, pet person aus, memloss, sex pollen scenarios, monster/human aus, god/human aus, fairytale aus, cyberpunk aus... a bunch of others. feel free to ask!

Other:

[alligatus]

so i actually keep wanting to throw lancelot at five, but like five is the worse person to set my iteration of lancelot w but that is also why i have been like potentially interested in the dynamics.

Whether it is more fucked up power dynamics, as Lancelot refuses to let any more women have control over him & seeing him one up five and like it /enjoy it even though he shouldnt. Or inevitably succumb to being one up over and over again by five, because well - thats just how it is. he ultimately has a need to want to be used.

I alsoo... have been wanting to pick up my two muse again loL!! i have a bunch of friends rping the sisters all over. its been itching at me to pick her up.

[hydrodance]

Characters:

kaedehara kazuha maplewinds | genshin impact
naganohara yoimiya fiireworks | genshin impact
nilou hydrodance | genshin impact
serval landau rocknserval | honkai star rail
Contact: pm me on either of these accounts, i will reply to you! i check these accounts more than my discord, which is dead so you can reach me through pm here.

Seeking: canonmates, cross-canon, general or shipping plots. i love me some platonic dynamics as much as i love romantic shipping. if you have any ship ideas you want to try out, let me know! and if i don't find myself shipping it, i would still love to do platonic/gen dynamics.
Verse Ideas: i'm open to discussing some verses, however i'd much rather be set in either canon or canon divergence. but if you have a verse idea you want to try, definitely mention it and i'll let you know if i'm interested.

Other:

Star Trek: Discovery & Strange New Worlds | Lorca / Chapel, Cornwell, La'an, others

[cryptofascist]

Character: Gabriel Lorca (Star Trek: Discovery)
Contact: PM, screened comment, comment here

Seeking: Chapel, Cornwell, La'an, Prime!Georgiou, Una; Mirror!Georgiou (behind details cut). He's pretty defined by his canon circumstances so while I'm open to cross-canon, these verse ideas don't really apply in those cases.

Verse Ideas: Vague spoilers for Discovery season one. Explicit spoilers under the details tab.

Looking for all the bad romance with Gabriel Lorca from Star Trek: Discovery. Links out of the way: Permissions and preferences (including full shipping manifest), character information, warnings and AU's, and kink list. And if anyone's got a Lorca of their own tucked away, I'm happy to fulfill either side of the equation.

We're talking manipulation, corruption, fraternization, power dynamics, fixation and obsession, dangerous disparities in relationship understanding and/or investment. He's a sneaky fuck so I'd love to do a slowish burn of him seducing a subordinate by inception so that they end up approaching him for an illicit relationship, and then all kink breaks loose. (We can skip around in the timeline, though. Just because they take it slow doesn't mean we have to, wink.) Interested in warzone and survival scenarios, where Starfleet rules gradually become the last thing on anyone's mind, ball it we fuck, and then navigating the consequences of those decisions afterwards when the brass is breathing down their necks again.

Little of that applies to Cornwell but she's the only one who knew him pre-Buran incident, and there's plenty of other fun to be had with their "what the fuck is wrong with you" dynamic. Interested in doing more with her "broken man" remark and their FWB relationship, drawing things out over several encounters. This is also the more likely dynamic with Georgiou and Una.

He's not infallible. I'm very open to him getting overconfident with this, developing a blind spot for his partner, and getting his ass handed to him when they realize he flaunts Starfleet code in a lot more arenas than just interpersonal relationships. (And none of his behaviour can be excused by PTSD or the pressures of war.) Less detrimental to his career and agenda, but within the same vein: Make this top admit he's a switch. Push him on that, he'll initially push back, then forever deny he's into being dommed while the results speak for themselves.

For something not-completely-but-pretty different, expand below.

Discovery season one spoilers

I'm also reading Drastic Measures, the Prime Lorca & Georgiou tie-in novel. Prime Lorca is tamer than his Mirror counterpart, but still rowdy as hell. He's on the table too. His ship prefs are much the same though some of the harder kinks may not apply (at least as far as him doling them out goes). Interested to write his escapades and misfortunes in Mirror universe, too. Especially with Emperor Georgiou, considering his familiarity with the Prime version.

As for spoiler-y ideas concerning regular Mirror Lorca, I'd be interested to do a Section 31 AU with him occupying a position similar to Mirror Georgiou's in the Prime Universe, or forming a proto-Maquis with Federation deserters to occasionally team up with Starfleet crew despite the unveiling of his initial deception. Essentially being his worst self on main, probably plotting against the Federation long term, but filling the role of tenuous ally, necessary after everything Starfleet lost in the Klingon War.

I understand if this is the kinda thing you'd like to keep on lock! And I'm game to set up a shared community with screened entries and dual admin access. I can be reached via PM, screened comment on his permissions post, comment here, or just hit him up on a meme. I'm littering him all over them; because he's a hellbound handbasket of red flags and trigger warnings, I'm limiting tag-outs to folks I already know or have given me the green light.

Other:

[revmeup]

Why have "I can fix them" when you could have "I can make them worse"? I've only seen partway through season 1 of Discovery but Star Trek is so very AU-able that I'm sure Harley could be made to fit.

OFMD & Good Omens

[treading_water]

Characters:
Edward Teach/Blackbeard treading_water
Crowley agathokakological
Contact: PM/comment. Discord if we get somewhere.

Seeking: Canon & Cross-canon. Shipping, Comedy, a touch of angst perhaps.
Verse Ideas: I'm very open to everything. Literally name it and I'll probably be into it. OU (and canon divergent), AU, modern or historic, if Cross-canon I'll happily shoehorn my characters into your characters universe or vice-versa.

Other:
For Edward I'm mostly looking for Stedes, Izzys, or both interested in writing on-going plot (can be vignettes in same timeline) for shipping and fun. Lighthearted and funny is great, but considering the canon I can go dark when need be, as long as there is balance. If cross-canon I don't have any specific ideas, so I'll have to consider any pitches, but I'm open to hearing them.
For Crowley I'm very fond of shipping him cross-canon with other misfits. I definitely adore canon ships too, so Aziraphales don't be shy. Again I love longer-term PSL partners to write ongoing timelines. He can be fun to AU and slot into different worlds, and since he's a more magical entity I can really get weird with him if you want. I still prefer lightheartedness and comedy with him, but he's also an angsty baby so once again we'll find a balance.
Do I nearly play two of the same character? Yes. Not sorry about it tho.

[mayberaven]

So my brain immediately wants to slam my idiot at Edward somehow. I'm not entirely sure *how* but maybe Fjord through some chain of nonsense ends up on Edward's ship as crew or they come across each other elsewhere? (Hell maybe Edward is a warlock with a not-as-shitty patron, or is a patron looking to poach one of Uk'otoa's for himself bc fuck the sea snake he's obviously better or something like that.)

FFXIV and The Legend of Zelda

[aetherialshackles]

Characters:

- Erichthonios | Final Fantasy XIV
- Claudien | Final Fantasy XIV
- Link | TloZ: Skyward Sword
- Ravio | TloZ: A Link Between Worlds
- Sidon | TloZ: Breath of the wild

Contact:
You can easily poke me here through PM or ask for my discord.

Seeking:

For all characters: Adventure themed Psls. Castmates/shipping optional but really not necessary, I'm more than happy with crosscanons.

Erichthonios could use someone showing him the world outside the facility he spent most of his life. I can AU him if needed and he could use someone who lnows more about the outside world. Willing to touch angst and visit the Final Days or anything coming after that. In terms of canonmates I'd kill for a Lahabrea (because they clearly need A Talk), Elidibus or a WoL/Azem, but open to others.. Shipping wise, I do admit I'm only interested in Elidibus, but it'd have to be a slow, slow burn since this guy probably never even heard of what a crush feels like.

Claudien is your enthusiastic researcher who will happily jump in the middle of danger in the name of knowledge. I'm open to pretty much anything with him and canomate wise he will gladly interact both with ancients, due to the memories of Someone living inside his mind, and people of the modern world. He's optimistic and full of life so, as long as you keep in mind he can barely fight to protect himself, feel free to drag him to adventure! Shipping wise he's open to pretty much anyone, just know my Claudien has a very soft spot for gleaners in general.

Link. Link for me is generally post canon, unless you're interested in hurt/comfort. Traveling, mapping the world, talking about birds, studying stuff- open to pretty much anything. I would especially love to explore the time after the ending, when the children of Hylia are first starting to settle on the surface and the challenges that come with it.I don't ship him with Zelda and I do blame the Skyward Sword manga for it because it ruined the ship as a whole for me, but at the same time I adore the girl and friendship/brotherly relationships are more than welcome.

Ravio: My adored opportunistic merchant. He can't fight, but man he knows how to run fast and how to survive adversities despite that. He's a magic user that mostly specializes in the creation of arcane tools, if his shop is anything to go by, and I'll happily take him to any setting/Au. Lorule and Hyrule are both worlds where he can be canonically found and despite his cowardice, he's fully dedicated to his queen Hilda and his people- just don't expect him to spend rupees or do the things Mister Hero (Link) does.

Sidon: If you want a supportive friend, here he is! While he can't be sent to very dry places, I can have him travel in most areas of Hyrule or even send him in other worlds/au things. Hurt/comfort and combat scenes are what I'm mostly looking for, shipping is very secondary and I'd rather not have a Yona for it still finishing tokt at the moment. I'd ESPECIALLY love interacting with a Mipha, have him in the AoC timeline or have him spend time with a Link.

Verse Ideas: I think I covered it all but feel free to drop in and send me more ideas, I'm not going to push anyone away. I'm starving for tags...

Other:

[apestalmenos]

(quietly waving from afar)

[orthodoxies]

Characters:
Grace Hollingsworth | Detective OC | orthodoxies

Contact:
Comments or PMs are both cool!

Seeking:
- More friends for Grace in general. Fandom characters have been great for her to play against so far. My main fandoms are MCU and X-Men so love any of those characters - especially a Jean Grey who could probe into Grace's mind and help sort out the mess. But I'm also open to other originals too. Grace's biggest problem is she feels alone so even if it's someone she just texts in tfln or texting memes, she'll appreciate having people to talk to. She also works in her family's restaurant as a side job so it doesn't have to be related to her being a cop. They can talk about home renovation or meet in the grocery store or on the street.

- A new ship for her to move on from her ex-boyfriend. I played Grace as straight before but I'm open to both men and shipping her with other women if the chemistry is there. It will probably be a slow burn as she learns to trust someone but the "impulsive hookup that evolves into more" is also an option, because Grace can be like a schoolgirl when she finds someone she likes. She just needs some happiness and affection after getting stabbed in the back.

Verse Ideas:
- In general I want to play Grace moving on from her past and finding something/someone that makes her happy. That could be a friendship, a relationship or her starting a new job but just people helping her find her way because she's never seen much of the world outside of Detroit nor has she really thought about what she wants out of life. Happy to adapt her to other canons as part of that journey.

- I've thought about getting Grace a lawyer and then she becomes friends with that person and they help her navigate out of her legal troubles/turn into an ally as she works on her revenge scheme. If anyone plays any lawyers, hmu for some legal drama. Lots of attorney-client privilege stuff going on as she talks about getting her ex in trouble and then hunting down all of his criminal friends. Try to stop her, decide to enable her, your choice.

- There is a Raylan Givens out there who is awesome and it's made me want to throw Grace into the world of Justified. Happy to play with the current season since it takes place in Detroit.

Other:
I haven't dwrped in literally years, so a lot of this is new to me, but I'm open to trying different things! I try to tag at least a few times a day but I can backtag as long as anyone wants, too.

[ptoma]

Characters:
michael afton | five nights at freddy's | ptoma
wally darling | welcome home | asabvsblw
connor | detroit: become human | exigere (tenative)
Contact: PM any of the above journals or reply here!

Seeking:
mike: any other FNAFs are always a delight, i love tossing mike at other horror-friendly canons and would be curious to have him interact with resident evil characters, robotic characters or robot creator types, or characters that are more paranormal-inclined like mediums and fellow i have stared into the abyss types.
wally: ngl i love tossing spooky puppet at practically anybody. he's cute and charming and very dumb and i love protective/parental types that can carry him around like a toddler. as well as darker/horror-types or characters from equally spooky canons that he can cause some trouble for.
connor: struggling with his voice as i so often do so i'd love for some voicetesting practice with him again. i would love fellow DBH castmates as well as other robots/androids/nonhumans, police/detective characters, and happy to AU him into other settings as well.
Verse Ideas: i'm honestly very okay with characters just hanging out and shooting the shit. anything that gets mike to open up and talk about his past and maybe bond with someone, obvs doesn't have to be shippy he needs friends too even though he's a jerk. paranormal investigators scoping out a rumoured haunted restaurant discover reanimated corpse inside, hijinks ensue. etc. both wally and connor i have no real specific ideas for so i'm open to suggestions and hashing out ideas together!

Other:

[ggy]

inflicts a little gremlin (possibly NASTY) little dude on mike

[moes]

Characters:

himeko inaba / kokoro connect / dereban
lois lane / my adventures with superman / dailyreport (voice-testing!)
kana arima / oshi no ko / bakingsoda
akane kurokawa / oshi no ko / repliacting
mion sonozaki / higurashi no naku koro ni / sononizaki (og) penalties (timeskip)
rika furude / higurashi no naku koro ni / miirai (og) miisdealt (timeskip)
mafuyu asahina / project sekai: colorful stage / applehearted
conan edogawa / detective conan / holmesapprentice
illyasviel von einzbern / fate series / worldcup (f/sn) 2wei (prillya)
rin tohsaka / fate series / tsunderine
sakura matou / fate series / imaginenumbers (f/sn) alreadybroken (dark) unchose (prillya)
zange / kannagi / crossingout
echidna / re:zero / naturalgreed
yor forger / spyxfamily / mothornly
loid forger / spyxfamily / nameforger (voice-testing!)
marie amabuki / caligula effect 2 / reclassed (voice-testing!)
setsu / gnosia / keyreversal (voice-testing!)
mizuki date / ai:ni / pipelines (voice-testing!)
ushio kofune / summertime rendering / shellrender
stelle / honkai: star rail / starwill

Contact: replying here, pm, or tsundereban are the easiest ways to contact me.

Seeking: I'm definitely interested in canonmates and cross-canon. I don't really have much preferences. There are several things that I'd like to see, cross-canon wise, which'll be listed below.

For Lois, I'd definitely be interested in having her interact with various other DCU characters and even alternate Clarks and Lois Lanes! Canonmates of course, are naturally also welcome, too. Other reporter types would also be interesting as well.

For the Oshi no Ko characters I play, I'm interested in playing them against Kaguya-sama characters, but also against other actors. If anybody plays from Skip Beat, Glass Mask, or one of the WonderShos from Project SEKAI, I'd especially be interested in the cross canon there.

For Rika Furude and Ushio Kofune, I'd like to play these two against other characters from timelooping series - your Steins;Gates, Homura from Madoka Magica, Subaru from Re:zero, etc.

As for Mion, other Yakuza-types! Characters from the Yakuza franchise would especially be excellent, but I'm down for others, too.

For Mafuyu, I'd like to play her against other musical type characters. Idols, singers, composers, the like.

For the Fate/ characters, I'd definitely be interested in playing against any other Fate characters! I'm especially interested in Rin Tohsaka and Sakura Matou meeting the Sakurafaces or even Ishtar/Ereshkigal in particular. Characters that may know them while they don't know the other is also fun shenanigans. As for Illya, I want to play her against a Shirou, Angra Mainyu or even Muramasa. Feel free to toss other ideas besides what I've written here, though, I'm down for a lot.

For Conan/Shinichi, I want to play him against other detective types or hell, even other Phantom Thief types. I've also played the GBF collab, so I'd be interested in playing him against Gran/Djeeta or anyone who was in that collab tbh, although I'd be down to playing him against other GBF characters in general?

For Stelle, I am especially interested in cross-canon. Other worldhoppers, such as those from Kingdom Hearts or Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle would be excellent. I'm also interested in playing her against those from Honkai: Impact 3rd, so feel free to hit me up regarding that :3c

Verse Ideas: I have a PSL wishlist here that you can peruse, but it's a bit outdated, so I'll write down some of the newer concepts below.

Things that I'm especially interested in:
- Plot with some exploration/mystery; something long form versus short, although I'm not opposed to anything short!
- Regarding Holy Grail War AU stuff, I'm especially interested in playing Conan/Shinichi as a Servant, feel free to ask me for more details.
- Mindfuckery of some sort. Whether that deals with altered memories, erased memories, psychological torment, I like messing with characters.
- Canon integration/combination AUs. I especially like doing this with Inaba (i.e: putting her into other modern day/urban settings) but I can work with other characters for this as well!
- Hypnotism. No brainer.
- Timeloops. I actually like writing long form time loop setups, so like, come at me.
- Exploring a person's heart! I like having characters learn about each other this way, I think it's neat.

I'm also open to things outside of these so if you have some sort of Big Brain Idea, please let me know, we can work something out.

Other: My timezone is PST (UTC-8) but my tagging hours tend to be past 11 PM from Thursdays-Mondays, as that is when I'm off work. Tues/Weds are my days off of work and my tagging hours fluctuate depending if I'm busy but generally lean towards the afternoon/late evenings. I tend to tag medium-slow depending on how I'm feeling, haha... please feel free to poke me if I'm taking too long on a response, though!

[alligatus]

bats my hands at tableee, would you like to do AU HGW summonng with either Lancelot or raikou ( zerker mom ) for sakura? I have always been fond of Zerker!raikou coming through and moming sakura immediately as well as shinji and kind of killing zouken off if not right away, due to the absolute horrors sakura goes through and trying to control her temper when she finds out. would be equal to the moment on the mountain when she went to try to get rid of her existence, and Kintoki cried for her to stop.

For lancelot, Ive always been a softy for... Lancelot also knowing what happened to sakura during the HGW when Kariya summoned him. and having an over protectiveness of her when/if summoned a 2nd time. granting his last masters wish in some way - since lancelots loyalty is similar to gawain. where his master is someone he devouts his everything to inorder to make up for what he did alive. i do my own iteration of lancelot!! bc fuck urobuchi tbh. so it would be working with my own version if you are interested!!!!

i am ok with darker themes revolving around Sakura and adding it to the psl, raikou and lancelot have a lot going on mentally with them so theres that.

[bitesoutcrime]

Characters:
Monkey D. Luffy | One Piece | couldntsaveone
Trinity Hebrews | OC | bitesoutcrime
Serenity Hebrews | OC | keepcalmkelpie

Contact: discord @ medchan97, or PM

Seeking:
For Luffy: cast mates would be LOVED but I welcome all cross canon, AUs, what have you. I just want my boy to have fun and make new friends!

I really want to play into some playful vibes with Luffy. Light hearted threads, where he's just hanging out, sharing food, sharing stories, laughing and joking with others. He's big on adventures but honestly, that could be just going to the park and doing a lot of crazy things on the playground. For romance, he's definitely a slow burn type and he needs to really care about and respect somebody before there's even a consideration of doing anything beyond holding hands and hugging. He is overly affectionate with his friends, though, so I'm totally down for him seeming to send mixed signals.

Mainly looking for friends for him. Like I said, fun, light hearted threads. Or, alternatively, angsty threads that brings people closer. Message me if you want to talk about romance with him.

For Trinity: A vampire who does his best to keep the peace. He's technically young for his species but he's feeling a bit old now, as he's nearly 200. He's very jaded, used to others seeing only how they can use him.

Would just love some slow burn romance threads for him, some hurt/comfort, maybe a little angst. He needs someone to help look after him, since he's always looking after others. He's gay, so male characters only please.

For Serenity: For Serenity, I would very much like to play up some of the horror aspects of her. Despite doing her best to suppress her nature, she's still a kelpie and still craves human flesh. Worse still, she doesn't need to eat a lot of human flesh to sustain herself, so if she looses control, her victim would absolutely live to remember her/be horrified by her. She doesn't hate being a kelpie but she struggles with her cravings at times.

Would love some horror story lines. Not opposed to some romantic story lines with her, too, but they would definitely be a slow burn and filled with lots of angst, hurt/comfort, etc. (For romance, she's pan, so all are welcome.)

Verse Ideas: open to anything, really. I love suggestions and playing with new concepts.

Other: Recovering from a car crash and just getting back to work, so there may be times when I can reply a lot and other times when I'm slow, depending on how I'm feeling.

[itmeanstruth]

Trinity looks like a cool character. I have an OC here that I could probably AU into his world if you’re interested.

He’s by default a hospital orderly, so he’s good with the comfort in hurt/comfort scenarios. And as a freerunner, might catch a vampire’s eye when it comes to speed, movement, and surviving drops that most untrained folks would break themselves attempting. Not interested in smut threads, though, as he is ace.

[postboy]

Characters:
postboy DBZ's Piccolo
namekedgelord Mellophone, CaC from DBZ Xenoverse 2
kafkaiju Kafka Hibino of Kaiju No. 8

Contact:
PM or replies are fine.

Seeking: 0 preference for canon vs crosscanon, whatever's fun.

I'm a big fan of adventure threads- I'd really love to start with a premise and just keep improvising with barely any planning. Something like 'kidnapped to fight in a cosmic deathmatch' or 'the world's under attack, we must find the weakspot for massive damage' or whatever.

More specifically for Piccolo-
• Mentoring. It's his fate and he must accept it.
• Fun with Eternal Youth. Minor thing rarely mentioned is that Piccolo has inherited his dad's wish for eternal youth. I'd like to explore that. We're starting to get hints of it with him being the Son family mentor of two generations thus far, and its given me cravings.
• Extra stupid idea I've been craving- Piccolo needs money for some reason. So he has to get a part-time job.
• Piccolo the superhero. He was in a movie called Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero I need it.

More specifically for Mellophone-
• Space shenanigans.
• The Empire of Darkness (Good). Mello has a whole thing about pretending to be evil because being good is cringe and all his evil schemes end up being for the sake of peace in the universe. I'd love to do something with Mello picking up fellow dark but good characters to form a fighting force. Also fun- genuinely evil minions that don't get why they're not ruling the galaxy already.
• Mello the Dad. He can have a little of Piccolo's emotional journey, as a treat. Getting a youngster and teaching them how to be relentlessly edgy.

More specifically for Kafka-
• Defrosting hearts- Kafka is warm, passionate, and weird. In canon he has a few cool people around him that he warms up.
• Similarly, Kafka being kind and compassionate to someone villainous/otherwise dangerous. He's compulsively self-sacrificing, so going out of his way to protect them and they end up attached to him.
• Losing control of his Kaijuness and needs someone who, for whatever reason, can bring him back.
• Kafka and monsters and monster people. He's a monster guy.

Verse Ideas:

I'm always very flexible about these things. There's always a way to make things fit.

That said, some radically different verse concepts-

Demon King Piccolo II- a verse in which Piccolo, instead of being purified by Gohan, corrupted him. Evil ruler of Earth. I'e had so many thoughts on how events would shake out on this.

Kafka the fugitive. In canon, Kafka ends up accepted by the defence force but what if... he has to do good while on the run?

Other:

[maycry]

i have been eying Kafka on memes for ages, but I've never had any good ideas for how to tag! i am very canon blind but i feel there is monster people potential?

your fugitive prompt especially has me eyeing him. i love fugitive on the run type threads! running away together, finding a guy in your trash in the morning, breaking out of evil government labs, etc.

[shivmeabreak]

Characters: Rose | Tales of Zestiria | shivmeabreak
Contact: PM or comment

Seeking: Memes or PSLs. Gen or m/f shipping is fine. Canonmates or characters these series on the right would be wonderful, though I'll happily tag with just about anyone! For crosscanon: other assassins or merchant buddies, pacifists for moral dilemmas, fun shenanigans with upbeat, quirky types, or more hostile encounters with those who ping her bad guy senses would be fun.

Verse Ideas: Canon-based, canon divergences, full AUs... I'm pretty open to most ideas, though straight up angst 24/7 isn't really my thing. I also enjoy soulmates, unhealthy/complicated relationships, and drama. Zestiria also has a bonus dungeon that provides an excuse for characters to be tossed to/from their world! For more canon-based ones:
- Reincarnation AU: Very interested in Rose becoming a seraph!
- Tainted AU: Where one or more parties become a hellion/dragon.
- Modern AUs could tie into reincarnation by being the far future of Glenwood!

Other: My tagging speed and time varies, but leans towards CST evenings/night and I will gladly backtag.
- I'm looking for more than one-liner dialogue exchanges. Not necessarily paragraphs upon paragraphs of description (though I can get kind of rambling when I get into a scene), but some introspection and action would be wonderful. Acceptance of humor and slightly slow build up when IC is appreciated.
- I keep a list of open memes on my journal, if any of those sound appealing!

alina starkov . shadow & bone . ota

[solsankta]

Characters: Alina Starkov
Contact: PM

Seeking: Both canonmates and crosscanon! For canonmates, I always love the Darkling, Zoya, Genya, Nikolai and Mal. I'd love to play around with her and the Crows as well. For crosscanon, I can find a way to fit or blend her anywhere, so I'm open to anything. Give me GOT, The Witcher, MCU, etc, etc.

Verse Ideas: I'm a sucker for AUs or changing something in canon. Something where Alina makes a different choice in her canon that affects how everything plays out. Some ideas are, what if she'd discovered her abilities earlier and hid it, what if there were two Sun Summoners found and complicated things, what if Alina lived on through all the century to modern times and how would that change her (reincarnation can be played with as well). I also like adapting the verse for a modern take to see what we can play with there. I'm a huge fan of worldbuilding and vibing with a writing partner. Let's brainstorm something!

Other: I'm a pretty consistent tagger throughout the day, but I don't expect my partners to give the same. I'm very laidback and open to go at any pace. This is meant to be fun!

[mydear]

Characters:

Aziraphale (Good Omens) mydear
Astarion (Baldur's Gate) backscar
Anyone else here!

Contact: aziraphale @ plurk, discord avaliable

Seeking:

FOR AZIRAPHALE: Anything relating to Aziraphale/Crowley - either post-S1 canon shenanigans where they're trying to figure things out, AUs where confessions happen around that time pre-S2, anything like that. Also interested in doing some post-S2 things, either with some angst or some hurt/comfort, whatever floats!
FOR ASTARION: Pretty much anything at the moment! I've just started playing him (and have beaten the game, so spoilers are fine) and I want to have some fun just seeing how it goes. Shipping and non-shipping is fine, any canonmates - I just want to see what sticks!

Verse Ideas: My favourite AUs are arranged marriage, fake dating, soulmates and hanahaki, if any of those fit! Otherwise I am genuinely up for discussing and trying pretty much anything out and just having some fun.

Other: GMT timezone, daily/every few days tagger, happy to chat about things!

[tadpoled]

Hello! I am super down for more Astarion and Tav things if you've been enjoying them as much as I have!

[hobblepot]

Characters: oswald cobblepot / penguin
Contact: Main point of contact is by PM, but I also have a plurk and discord.
Seeking: Canon (Ed, Jim, Jerome?) and crossmedium adventures (any adult incarnation of Batman, especially.) Crosscanon (25+, villains esp.) as well - details below!

I have a hankering for something spicier these days. After some canon review, I'd dig the messy angst of Gotham!Jim Gordon and Os in a Fuck or Die scenario. That's probably the biggest thing on my wishlist.

Generally speaking, I'm looking to try some new kinks on the list, revisiting old ones for good fun, or writing deeply emotional scenes. Or all of the above somehow smooshed together. Bittersweetly pleasant stuff or dark, s'all good - I could swing either way if our writing gels and the characters seem to click. And by characters, I do mean that I am open to crosscanon as well. Chemistry is where it's at. I do have a preference for characters 25+ for this kind of thing.

Verse Ideas: I'm a simple guy - plot and setting don't matter half as much to me as character dynamics. I tend to keep Oswald in Gotham, but I do have a AU vampire version of him if you'd ever prefer that. Background and core personality traits are near identical to those of his canon counterpart - maybe canon divergence is a more accurate descriptor, considering my explanation for the 'vampirism' is that one of Hugo Strange's monsters attacked and infected him during his stint as mayor.

Other: I'm gunning for something that goes steady for a while. I tag every 1-3 days or so depending on my shifts and how heavy a thread is. I've got a couple threads brewing atm and something else about to start, which means I won't take on too many more 'hefty' threads as to avoid overwhelm. But I can't resist casting out my net anyway to see what comes back. Thanks for reading!

Nico Acosta | OC | OTA

[anoranza]

Characters: This guy
Contact: Here or via PM

Seeking: Established characters or other OC's (but would die for a Felicity Jones-faced PB)
Verse Ideas:

Depending on plot, Nico is either a former scholar and soldier who becomes a tutor after being injured on the front lines OR a prince or other titled member of society. Either way, he's always going to be shy and sweet and kind of awkward.

Arranged marriage with plenty of room for a total slow burn romance, they find reasons to keep coming together for these fleeting little moments that hint at happiness, courting after marriage, very slowly finding out how good they are for each other, and eventually falling in love.

Orrrrrrrr I'm also a sucker for a forbidden romance, so maybe a secret thing with someone he's tutoring (or a commoner or servant if he's titled) which could be chock full of innuendo, and stolen moments, touching, kissing, trying to deny feelings, missed opportunities, the desperation that comes with trying to stay away from each other only to fall back into each others arms and a whole lot of UST.

Also interested in:

Masquerade ball. Boy retreats outside for a breath of fresh air. Boy meets girl/boy/other. Boy offers girl/boy/other the coat they've dropped. Boy doesn't realize girl/boy/other is selkie. Boy is now in possession of selkie-fiancee.

Also very much into mermaid (or merman!) and their human love.

Other: World's slowest tagger so being open to a: backtagging and b: long waits is necessary. I will literally go forever until a thread is finished OR we decide to move elsewhere.

[liaisonsdangereuses]

Characters:
Rosalie Du Roc | original character | liaisonsdangereuses | info | voicetesting, fair warning

Contact: PM to this journal.

Seeking: Historical femslash and/or epistolary format PSL. Welcoming canon characters and other OCs equally much.

Verse Ideas: We can keep it simple and just slash some femmes in the 18th century - or do a PSL hard mode with all the letter writing (various sorts of CR welcome for this, romantic or gen) to tell the story for us; can be in a steampunk or similar fantasy-esque historical setting or just plain 18th century style, I'm pretty large. Also open to mixing the two ideas, femslash + epistolary. Especially interested in exploring differences in status in a romantic context as well as lavender marriages (with any male characters, gen).

Other:

Evie Montgomery or Amelia Atwater | OC's | OTA

[la_bonne_chose]

Characters: This lay or good_at_heart
Contact: Here or via PM

Seeking: Established characters or other OC's (but would die for a Diego Luna-faced PB)
Verse Ideas:

An arranged marriage that had been set up since Evie / Amelia was a child. They don't see each other often as they grow up, since they live in different countries, but every time they're in each other's presence, they don't like each other. Then the wedding comes, and she's sent to live in a place that is not a home with a man that she's sure that she hates. Slowly, they begin to realize that the other isn't a terrible person, they'd both just been put in a terrible situation and weren't given the choice to say 'this isn't want I want'. Total slow burn romance, they find reasons to keep coming together for these fleeting little moments that hint at happiness, courting after marriage, very slowly finding out how good they are for each other, and eventually falling in love.

But I also wouldn't mind playing a plot about class struggles. I'm a sucker for a forbidden romance, so whether she falls for someone above or below her station, I'm game. So, I'm definitely thinking about a lot of sneaking around, and trying to deny feelings, and the desperation that comes with trying to stay away from each other, only to fall back into each other's arms.

Or, in a similar vein, after the sudden death of her father, Evie / Amelia had to leave her schooling to help out a mother who was already working, all while taking care of her youngest siblings. She can be a maid, a cook, a nanny who falls for a single father, or older brother, another servant, a tutor, townsperson, someone of a higher station. I'm up for discussion!

And then, there is the good ol' plot that revolves around her tutor, and they sort of bond over books, and their shared love of reading, and while there are feelings that crop up for the both of them, it's not very proper for a man in his position to court a woman in hers. He's afraid of losing her to one of the tons of suitors her father is throwing at her, but still, they never share what it is that they're feeling, they just continue to live in this limbo of longing, and sexual tension, which slowly gets all the more intense until finally, he can't take it anymore, and he insists on a meeting with her father, where he tells him everything that he feels, that he loves her, that he might not be a rich man, but he'd treat her right, and that he wasn't leaving without her come hell or high water, and maybe it doesn't happen right away, or maybe they run away together, or maybe they actually are able to be together and get married, but obviously there'll be a happy ending in there somewhere, and ... yes.

Or, I'd also like a slow burn romance with the man that she's made to marry. At first, maybe they're both uncomfortable and aloof, but they find some sort of common ground, which leads to innuendo, and stolen moments, touching, kissing, missed opportunities, and a whole lot of UST.

I would also love, love, love a courtesan verse for Evie / Amelia. Sold into service at a high class brothel, she's spent years entertaining all sorts of patrons, never expecting to meet someone that they actually care about. Maybe she has a patron that returns time after time, and although she is reluctant to admit that she has fond feelings for him, eventually does. I am absolutely a sucker for a forbidden romance, and if this doesn't qualify, I don't know what will. I have so many horrible ideas of the hurt I can inflict in this verse, but ultimately, I would love for them to have a happy ending.

I would also love a plot where as a child, Evie / Amelia almost drowns and is saved by a young merman. She keeps coming to the shore as she grows up, and they fall in love. I'd love for him to magically gain the power to walk on land and try to properly court her.

Or, I'm a slut for the good old favorites - an arranged royal marriage, a princess and her bodyguard, masquerade balls, hell, give me supernatural options or your ideas as well!

Other: World's slowest tagger so being open to a: backtagging and b: long waits is necessary. I will literally go forever until a thread is finished OR we decide to move elsewhere.

Charles Desjardins | OC | OTA

[tendrement]

Characters: This guy
Contact: Here or via PM

Seeking: Established characters or other OC's
Verse Ideas:

Charles is a knight-for-hire, so of course I'm down for a forbidden romance with a woman of a higher station - the unhappy wife of the man who's hired him? Sister or daughter that wants nothing to do with their upcoming arranged marriage and see him as a means to escape?

Also into the idea of lovers torn apart by war who reunite when he comes limping home again. Or the idea of being captured and forced into servitude with trust and feelings growing from there.

I'd even also love to place him in a brothel type setting after capture for the same. I might love angst, but ultimately what I'm looking for is a happy ending.

Please bring your own ideas, I'm all ears! Also very happy to play anything that I lined out in Nico / Evie's posts above.

Other: World's slowest tagger so being open to a: backtagging and b: long waits is necessary. I will literally go forever until a thread is finished OR we decide to move elsewhere.

[serenely]

I have a 15th century noblewoman here, and love some of these ideas for them - both the knight-for-hire scenario (especially if he were hired by her husband the prince/warlord before his death, to ensure his wife and son would be cared for; and also the captive prisoner idea, if his people were warring with her husband’s army and charles became her personal servant? idk let me know what you think! i’d be happy to play either (or both) scenario out somewhere, perhaps in a musebox?

[eagleswept]

Characters:
Ganymede / Greek myth
Paris / Greek myth/Trojan war cycle eidosariste
Adonis / Greek myth aliveunderground

Contact: PMs to the accounts to start with!

Seeking:
For all of them; other Greek myth characters!
For Ganymede, Zeus for shipping, Hebe, Eros, Hymen(aeus) or the Erotes in general for friends. Apollo, as a friends/mentor/connection-through-Troy sort of thing. Anyone else welcome as well, of course. I'd be most interested in playing in the mythic era, from when he gets to Olympus to after the end of the Trojan war. Potentially also crossovers/etc with other immortal humans, or characters from canons set in Ancient Greece/Rome.
For Adonis, mostly I'm looking for familial stuff, particularly with Persephone, but Hades and any of the potential siblings he could have as well! Underworld gods in general, too. Potential shipping; Heracles since there's a version out there where Adonis is involved with him.
For Paris, I'd give anything for Hektor (extra bonus for full on incest, but it really doesn't matter). Other family members or Trojan war characters too! I'd especially love getting to explore his and Aphrodite's connection, and potentially something (whether it goes shipping/a one-time thing for smut, whatever) with Ares as well, thanks to the bullfighting myth. For shipping, Menelaus and Helen (there's more info/ideas for this on his journal).

Verse Ideas: These basically only apply to Paris, and isn't necessarily exhaustive but: modern reincarnation, no war/general canon divergence at different points in the war or specifically the Iliad, omegaverse, soulmates, fantasy or sci-fi, vampires.

[monstrocities]

Characters:
Geralt of Rivia - monstrocities
Jaskier - heroicsandheartbreak
Clint Barton - deathbeforedecaf
Bucky Barnes - so_no_plan
Contact:
Discord - daeliusthebard
Or contact any of the journals listed above

Seeking:
For Geralt: Mostly looking to Jaskier for Geralt. Also looking for Yenn or any of his brothers.
For Jaskier: Geralt and Yennefer. Also wouldn't say no to a Radovid.
For Clint: open to any and all PSL ideas, romance or gen.
For Bucky: Steve please!

Verse Ideas:
The Witcher - Very interested in exploring Witcher Jaskier, whether as Jaskier or Geralt. Pretty much interested in any type of AU, modern, fantasy, crossovers. Very open to anything.
Clint - Literally open to anything. I play Clint as a disaster bisexual so he's interested in any and all interactions. I can also play a more serious storyline with him.
Bucky - Anything with Steve - mostly looking for romance storylines.

Other:
I am always interested in AUs, crossovers, crosscanon etc. If you want to play with any of these characters, just message me and we can figure something out together!

[troubledour]

I would 100% love to thread stuff with these two!! I sometimes jump on memes, but I'd also be open to psls for whatever else you're interested in. I've never gotten to do modern stuff with them, but honestly any kind of au would be so fun! feel free to message me, I'll shoot you my plurk or we can just work it out there!!