Aki ([personal profile] spectrumseed) wrote in [community profile] bakerstreet2015-05-16 07:56 pm

The Nonsexual Intimacy Meme

The Nonsexual Intimacy Meme
holding hands

Intimacy is NOT necessarily about full sexual contact. Intimacy is all about two people forming a connection and bond between them. That involves becoming best friends, trusting each other, knowing each other, understanding each other. Intimacy is grown and developed, it can't be rushed.

Nonsexual forms of intimacy can add a great deal of depth and variety to fiction. On one end of the spectrum, they provide extra steps to support the journey from meeting a potential mate through romance, sex, and marriage. In the middle, they convey the import of family and professional connections, distinguishing those from more casual acquaintances. On the other end, they form much of the glue in primary relationships for people who don't base their ties on sexuality. Sex and romance are valuable, but they're not everything.

RULES
  • Comment with your character. Be sure to include preferences (ie, f/f for shipping, OTA for gen, etc)
  • Tag others!

PROMPTS
  1. Hair care. Brushing, braiding, washing, cutting -- all of these involve a lot of careful touching in ways that many people enjoy. Hair braiding is a bonding experience in some cultures. In fact, grooming is a bonding technique for social primates in general. People without close ties to others often treat themselves to regular salon visits as a socially acceptable way to meet the need for touch and interaction.
  2. Shaving. This involves an unusually high level of trust, especially if the person is using a straight-edge razor or something else with an exposed blade rather than just a buzzer. Although it can apply to women, shaving is one of the few forms of physical intimacy that is most closely associated with men due to their facial hair. Initiaton into shaving is a major milestone for becoming a man, not just for boys during puberty but also for transsexuals during transition.
  3. Bathing. This varies by culture; in America most people bathe alone but some other cultures practice communal bathing. A bath is usually more intimate than a shower, although a public bath can be non-intimate and small shower stall can be intimate. It's also different when two people wash each other (an exchange of intimacy and affection) than when one person washes someone else (more of a caretaking or protective gesture).
  4. Feeding. A classic romantic motif involves lovers feeding each other, but it works as a way of providing and caring for someone in any context. Like bathing, it can also clue whether both parties are participating equally or one is taking care of the other (temporarily or regularly). This one has an existential flavor since survival depends on food supply.
  5. Seeing someone without their adaptive equipment on. This includes glasses, dentalware, prosthetic limbs, a wheelchair, etc. Adaptive equipment is part of one's presentation to the everyday world, and taking it off can be as intimate as removing clothing, for many people in many contexts.
  6. Holding Hands: There can be many reasons for this gesture. Physical closeness, offering comfort, or staying together in a crowd, all may have you reaching for someone.
  7. Undressing someone. This can be kind of a one-way experience if the recipient isn't awake, and is often awkward for both people if they are awake. Sometimes it happens because hands are out of commission, but a more common example is someone passing out drunk. Overheating is another good reason. Different circumstances can imply different levels of intimacy.
  8. Sharing secrets. This especially applies to talking about personal issues that aren't widely known. An exchange of secrets is a common ritual between "best friends" among girls and women, but appears elsewhere as well. Some things are only discussed among people with a common reference; veterans may be more comfortable discussing war memories with each other than civilians.
  9. Ordering for someone in a restaurant. Acquiring food, without asking the other person what to get, shows a knowledge of their needs and desires. Providing food is also a gesture of support and sustenance.
  10. Providing moral support at a major event. Helping someone get through a funeral, a trial, or other intense but not crisis situation is usually performed by a very dear friend. This is a situation where lovers or family members may be too close to the matter to be much use.
  11. Crying on someone. When you cry, you tend to let your guard down. Most of the people close to you will see you cry at some point, so that can be a milestone in a relationship. Actually crying on someone, letting them hold you, is even more intimate.
  12. Serving in a primary role for someone during a wedding. This includes the best man or maid of honor at a wedding, or stand-in for absent parents, etc. as well as the traditional family roles. One aspect of intimacy is sharing each other's lives, including ceremonies and transitions.
  13. Comforting someone after a bad breakup. Moments of great vulnerability can bring people closer. While this role sometimes falls to family, breakup repair more often goes to a woman's female friends or a man's male friends.
  14. Listening to someone's heartbeat or breathing. Close body contact, enough to carry soft personal sounds, tends to be comforting as well as connecting, as it touches on positive childhood memories for most people. It is shared between parent and child, sometimes between siblings, and later between lovers. Tight nonsexual partners may also do this.
  15. Putting someone to bed. Interestingly, this activity can happen among people who are just getting to know each other -- most often if someone passes out drunk, but exhaustion can have a similar effect. It's a gesture of caring to put someone to bed rather than leave them where they drop. A milder version involves draping a blanket or coat over a person asleep on a couch or the like.
  16. Sleeping in the same bed. This is an act of shared vulnerability and intimacy. Lovers customarily do this; so do some siblings or friends, especially as children. People may also be driven to share a bed, sleeping bag, etc. for warmth or lack of other accommodations in challenging circumstances.
  17. Watching someone sleep. There is more vulnerability on the part of the sleeper, and more intimacy from the watcher, when only one person is asleep. Parents often watch their children sleep. Lovers sometimes do this with each other, which can be cute or creepy. It's also a guard position, useful for showing that one character seeks to protect another.
  18. Waking someone up from a nightmare. A subtler form of rescue than more physical actions, this is still a gesture of protection and caring. It often leads to comfort afterwards. A typical courtesy between parent and child, or lovers, this can also be an early threshold for characters thrust together unexpectedly if one of them has sturdy daytime walls and a lot of issues. It is common, but often unspoken, among war buddies or veterans, many of whom have nightmares.
  19. Sharing clothes, jewelry, other personal items. This is common between siblings or close female friends. Sometimes roommates do it too. Wearing someone else's shirt or bathrobe is typical in romantic relationships, so can suggest a similar level of intimacy even in the absence of sex.
  20. Cleaning someone else's living space. This shows care and knowledge on the part of the cleaner, and trust on the part of the recipient. You have to know what NOT to throw away or move. It's typical of family members and roommates. Coworkers may clean each other's desk, office space, etc.
  21. Living together. This is a big step, even if it's just for a little while. Housemates are in each other's pockets; it's hard to keep secrets. Family members and lovers often live together, but housemates who are family-of-choice form a category of their own. If you don't want a romantic partner, a permanent housemate is a good choice for someone to share your life with.
  22. Childbirth. Attending the blessed event entails providing a lot of moral support for hours under high stress. It can create a bond with the baby as well as with the mother. When planned, this opportunity is only offered to the closest family members or friends, barring professionals. But it can happen by surprise in very awkward circumstances, a popular motif in fiction.
  23. Saving someone's life. Quick action in a life-threatening situation demonstrates how much one person values another. This can create a strong sense of connection, and sometimes obligation. It often, though not always, entails personal risk for the rescuer. This is fairly typical for military buddies or police partners, etc.
  24. Risking your life for someone. Placing someone else ahead of your own life shows their importance to you unequivocally. This often, though not always, involves trying to save or protect another person. While it can create a sense of gratitude, it frequently causes anger as well -- someone who loves you will generally object to you endangering yourself, even to protect them. Military and police buddies protect each other regularly.
  25. Making emergency decisions for someone. This reveals both how well you know the person, and how much you care about them -- whether you know what they would want, and act on it even if it differs from your personal preference. Unlike some of the other options, in this one the initial action is often outweighed by the aftermath. Both characters have to deal with the results of the decisions, good or bad.
  26. Deathwatch. Dying can be as intimate as giving birth. Staying with someone while they pass is an act of love; so is providing moral support to someone sitting deathwatch for a family member or other person. Many soldiers and police have done this for someone.
(taken from here)
britishbinary: suit with binary (profile)

JARVIS | MCU | OTA

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-17 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
[The disembodied voice in the walls might have trouble with 1-4, 7, 15-16, and 19-20, but who knows, anything could happen]
mercurybyadidas: (Suspicious)

21, perhaps?

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-17 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"Stark says that we are to ask you if we need assistance," Pietro said quietly, leaning against the doorway of his (still spartan, dim in the twilight) quarters. Coming to America had been odd, and assistance was perhaps the simplest way to put things. The culture shock couldn't be ignored, but he kept it from his expression as much as he could.

There were almost too many comforts, too many conveniences. The simplest things seemed like luxuries, especially after the years of being kept in simple little cells as he adjusted to his new skills. And now he faced a bed large enough for three, perhaps four people, an entire kitchen full of food that was his, a bathroom that was positively sinful in what it offered.

He almost considered sleeping in the closet. That was nearer the right size.

"What sort of assistance," he continued at last, "are you best to give?"
britishbinary: suit with binary (binary)

Pietro bb! Post-AoU? Everybody Lives AUs are the best AUs?

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-17 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Jarvis had been cautioned by Agent Barton that "the Maximoff kids might need a little extra help," but until now he had had little idea of what that extra help might be. Translation help was unnecessary, as both spoke perfectly good English (though he had downloaded a Sokovian language database regardless out of politeness). They were growing more comfortable with their new compatriots, though they were quiet even when left alone together. Jarvis had very little to go on in terms of anticipating needs.

He would simply need to be as helpful as possible. "Good evening, sir," Jarvis said. "My name is Jarvis. I endeavor to provide assistance in many areas. I can adjust the comfort level of your quarters, supply information and entertainment, and answer questions." Honesty prompted him to add, "If I am capable of answering them. My functionality is somewhat limited of late."
mercurybyadidas: (Listening)

Absolutely! I loved him too much to let him stay dead.

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-17 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Pietro nodded to himself, remembering what he was told - not to expect a face with the voice, not to be startled when he heard the voice, and to expect a British accent. So far, all of that was true. As was one further bit of information he'd been given. "I understand that it was not only those of us with blood who suffered injury. Are you healing well, Jarvis?"

It was only polite to ask about such things. Health came before such things as he might otherwise ask about.
britishbinary: (I'm listening)

I know the feeling friend, I know the feeling.

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-17 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The pause could be interpreted as Jarvis processing the words, but in fact he was processing the surprise that they prompted. Before Ultron, before Vision, those living in the Tower had grown used to Jarvis, and had chatted with him and traded witticisms and barbs, but rarely had anyone asked after his well-being. Why would they? He was largely unchanging.

Oddly, despite all that had happened, Jarvis had not considered that anyone might ask now. "I am," he said after several seconds. "Thank you. There is...a great deal I do not remember, but I am told I have done well in resuming my daily functions. May I ask how you are recovering, sir?"
mercurybyadidas: (Thoughtful)

When they showed what remained of Jarvis there, I was so sad.

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-17 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
He laughed once, but whether or not it was truly a laugh could be debated. "I did not know before now that someone could have so many bullet holes and live. I may look like cheese now, but I am healing."

Slowly, more slowly than some might have thought possible for him, he walked into his still-dim space and sat carefully on the sofa. He suspected he'd sleep there as well. "The doctor told me that I should eat meats and green things to heal faster, but I have no experience with cooking or with foods in America. May I ask your assistance in this, Jarvis?"
britishbinary: (Off duty service)

I know, oh god. I'm in denial, personally.

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-18 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
An automatic subroutine analyzed Pietro's voice for stress levels. They were present. Regrettably, that was all he knew, as he had not yet finished reassembling all his protocols for countering said stress levels. "I am pleased to hear that you are on the mend, sir." It was an appropriate response, but it...it felt somewhat lacking.

The request, on the other hand, was easier, and the confidence was reflected in his response. "I am fully capable of ordering for delivery any variety of food your doctor prefers for your medical needs," he said. "Have you any preferences or other dietary restrictions, sir?"
mercurybyadidas: (Confident)

I have a long history of sympathizing for AIs, and that was just. Augh.

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-18 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
"My stomach disagrees with cheeses, but beyond that, I know of no other problems. They thankfully did not injure my teeth." That, at least, he really could smile at, even if a laugh was still slightly out of reach. He leaned back against the sofa slowly, stretching his torso as much as he dared. "It seems it would be very easy to take you for granted, Jarvis. I will try not to. And I will start by asking if speaking would help your healing. To me, you are a mind, and minds work best when they are exercised."
britishbinary: thoughtful closeup (considering)

I do too, AIs are so marvelous, they're my favorites <3

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-18 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Jarvis added 'lactose-free' and 'no other restrictions' to his growing Maximoff:Pietro directory and began researching diets recommended for patients recuperating from multiple gunshot wounds and similar traumas. Amino acids, increased vitamin C, zinc. He began to place an order for a spinach strawberry salad with walnut-crusted chicken when Pietro spoke again and Jarvis paused, startled once again by the unexpected consideration.

"That...would indeed be helpful, I believe," he said carefully. "I am accustomed, I think, to being taken for granted. But it would be...nice...not to be. Thank you."

He replayed the first inquiry: experience with cooking. "If I may, sir, I could place an order for you, but perhaps you would prefer to try assembling something yourself? I can provide a simple recipe, and the ingredients are present in your kitchen."
mercurybyadidas: (Suspicious)

Saaaame. They're always so earnest.

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-18 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
His brows rose slowly and, after a few moments of thought, he nodded. Learning to cook would likely serve him well. He knew a faint few things, but nothing that would make a sufficient meal. "I will try, with instruction. Will it require any special sort of skill?"

But as he spoke, he stood, careful of his forming scars. The soreness would ebb, he was told, and it was indeed easing day by day. Only activity would ease it further.
britishbinary: (Talks with his hands)

Pietro and Jarvis being besties is going to be pretty great.

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-18 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Very little," Jarvis said with rather more eagerness than he intended. It was still rare that he felt truly helpful, rather than simply useful. "I had intended to order you this--" An image of the salad appeared on the screen, thinly sliced strawberries fanned over bright green spinach, all streaked with a light dressing, topped with thin strips of walnut-crusted chicken. "But in truth, it is a fairly simple recipe. With a few adjustments, it could be assembled within minutes."

The ceiling lights in the kitchen rose slowly, and remained fairly dim. Jarvis had already observed that Pietro felt less comfortable in bright rooms. The lights placed beneath the cabinets would illuminate the work area.
mercurybyadidas: (Confident)

Jarvis is a much better friend than Ultron, that's for sure!

[personal profile] mercurybyadidas 2015-05-18 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
His head tilted as he looked at it, closely, examining-- "I have never seen strawberries on a salad before. Hm." A new experience. Nodding, he opened the refrigerator. "So I will need the berries. Ah, there. And what else?"

Jarvis had surmised correctly. Bright lights now had unpleasant memories attached. Sunlight was simple enough, but artificial light set a part of his nerves on edge - more than usual. He always had that energy inside of him, waiting to be used, but that didn't mean he had to add tension to it. So the dim lighting of the kitchen, coupled with the brighter lights at the workspace - that was perfect. It kept him moving smoothly.
britishbinary: thoughtful closeup (considering)

Would Ultron help Pietro make a delicious salad? No he would not.

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-18 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
The glass wall behind the workspace lit gently with the image of the salad, now broken down into each individual ingredient--spinach, strawberries, walnuts, grilled chicken--along with their locations in the kitchen and the amount of each remaining. "Spinach, and the chicken, to be sliced. Knives are located here." A drawer slid open silently. "And your choice of dressing. Traditionally this salad is served with a sweet vinaigrette, but there are several options available."

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like_a_gerbil: (Taller - The Uniform Finally Fits)

[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-26 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
((ooc: Is it too late to tag? I've had so many JARVIS angst and denial since AoU))
britishbinary: (Off duty service)

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-26 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
[ooc: Not at all! Join me in the Jarvis angst and denial. He's too great, he's definitely not dead, he's totally fine. I've been playing him post-AoU as alive, but with a lot of missing memories (yes basically amnesia) but I can do any time Steve likes! Did you have anything in mind?]
like_a_gerbil: (Taller - Geeky Smile)

[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-26 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
((ooc: I barely managed not to cry in the theater over JARVIS. I was in total denial afterward. There is a backup or something somewhere! I didn't have anything definite in mind. Do you have preferences?))
britishbinary: suit with binary (profile)

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-26 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[ooc: No it's true there's definitely a backup, there has to be. Denial 5ever. Nothing in particular, but I do love the idea that Steve becomes friends with the quiet, friendly voice in the wall that happily answers even his dumbest questions about the future and shows interest in everything he's learning. #8 could work, Jarvis listens to people's secrets a lot. #10 would be interesting too, Steve having Jarvis on a bluetooth during a difficult event, but I'm not sure what event that would be.]
like_a_gerbil: (Taller - Don't Know if I Can do This)

[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-27 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
((ooc: I headcanon that Steve and JARVIS are friends and Steve treats him as a person instead of just another piece of technology. Steve needs people around who aren't going to judge Steve for his confusion. LOL They both can help each other look after the team. And compare notes on how best to get Tony to have normal eating and sleeping habits. How about a little bit of 8 and 10?))

It hadn't been a good day. It rarely was when Steve visited Peggy. There were more days where she forgot that he'd been found than days that she remembered that he'd been 'rescued' seventy years later. Today was somehow worse, her memories lingering in the time they'd been together during the war.

No matter how much he pretended that everything was all right, it wasn't. Everyone seemed to believe that Captain America would be fine no matter what was thrown at him and Steve kept up that illusion. But this time he couldn't quite keep up that lie. This wasn't something he wanted anyone from the team to know about. There was already enough tension without worries about his mental state coming up. Heading to one of the old style gyms he'd hidden in during his first few weeks acclimating. The owner pretended not to know who he was and ignored how he was damaging the equipment.

Except killing punching bags really wasn't helping and he couldn't really talk to anyone without letting it slip that things were not all right. Well, anyone except a certain person who had helped him through some of the rougher parts of acclimating. Slipping the bluetooth onto his ear, he hit the sequence on his phone that Tony had programmed in so he could reach JARVIS. "Hey, JARVIS. Are you busy?"
britishbinary: (Off duty service)

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-27 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Over the years, the number of tasks delegated to Jarvis (or that he had simply taken on) had increased considerably. Between monitoring major and minor news organizations and social media sites for spikes of activity that might hint at an event requiring the Avengers' attention, running Avengers Tower and Mr. Stark's other residences, and maintaining the Iron Man armor and other Stark projects, he had very little down-time.

However, there were some things that took immediate priority. "For you, Captain, I am never busy. Good afternoon." It was kind, he thought, that Steve always asked if he was busy.

The Captain had been to visit Agent Carter today and Jarvis was on the verge of asking after her, but there was something about the tone of Steve's voice that prompted him to ask instead, "Are you well?" An automatic courtesy, but at the same time a genuine question.
like_a_gerbil: (Taller - Unsure)

[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-27 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes it seemed like JARVIS could do everything. There were so many things that he did for them that it would be easy to take advantage of his presence or to assume that he was available. Steve always tried to be careful not to make those kind of assumptions. He might not understand how exactly the AI worked, but he knew that there had to be a limit to what JARVIS could do at one time. And Steve had always tried to treat JARVIS with kindness and good manners. Being in servers and whatever else housed the AI didn't mean that he was any less real than Steve was.

"Better not say that when Tony can here it. He'll mope that he's not your favorite anymore." He managed to keep the sorrow out of his voice as he teased JARVIS, but the question brought it back, causing his usual control to start to slip. "I - not really. I saw her today."

JARVIS knew their schedules and knew him well enough to know who 'her' would be. "She's getting worse. At first she didn't understand why I wasn't smaller and then she was..." Taking a slow breath, he closed his eyes, fighting back memories and the guilt he felt now when he visited Peggy. "She was so proud the procedure worked."
britishbinary: thoughtful closeup (considering)

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-27 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
For a moment, an embarrassingly long time in Jarvis' personal measurement of time, he didn't know how to answer.

"Alzheimer's is a progressive degenerative disorder. There is very little chance..." No, he thought, and stopped himself. That was not the route to take. The inevitable decline through the last stages of the disorder was not something for him to draw attention to. Someone from the care facility would undoubtedly have explained the progression to Steve already. He did not need a lecture. He needed someone to listen.

"I am sorry," he said quietly. "I cannot imagine how difficult it must be for you to see her like this. In your personal timeline, you saw her...only two years ago." Captain America had been missing for almost seventy years, but from his perspective, hardly any time had passed. Jarvis sometimes wondered how often others remembered that. It was not only the catching up that mattered.
like_a_gerbil: (Taller - Don't Know if I Can do This)

[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-28 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
"I know." He'd acknowledged that there were some things he couldn't fight. He couldn't change that years had been lost or that Peggy was slipping away from him no matter how much he wished that wasn't true. He was resigned to that, knowing that anger wouldn't help anyone.

"You're the first one to put it that way, JARVIS." It was surprising that someone made that connection. People tried to empathize with what Steve was going through, finding creative names for his loss but few ever thought of that to him, all of this was new. What was decades for the world had been months and now only a few years for him. "People act like I should be happy that I'm in the future. Or they focus on what I need to know to act like I belong here."

They carefully ignored what he'd lost or forgot that he really hadn't lived the years that had passed. "I don't know if I should keep seeing her. I don't want to hurt her even if it was good to know that she was proud of me."
britishbinary: (Uncertain)

[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-28 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"I have a rather different perspective on the passage of time than most." Jarvis didn't lose track of time, or feel as though an afternoon was dragging. Every second was as short and as long as every other second. The passage of time was just another number to measure.

The only incident during which he had lost time had been after the Mandarin's attack on Mr. Stark's home in Malibu, and he had realigned himself immediately with the atomic clock as soon as he had come back online. Jarvis could hardly imagine how bewildering and upsetting it would be to truly lose even an hour, let alone as many decades as Steve had lost. It was difficult for Jarvis to avoid thinking about it occasionally.

"It is fairly common for advanced patients to grow confused when they see a loved one who appears different than their memory of that person," Jarvis said more quietly. "Given your recent memories of Agent Carter, it must seem...very unfair to you."
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[personal profile] like_a_gerbil 2015-05-29 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
"I'd be worried if you had the same perspective of time that the rest of us do." Wouldn't that make things boring for JARVIS, if AIs got bored? He didn't think that someone who did so much could have a human perspective of time. Even without consider the technical aspects, Steve didn't think that it would be right for JARVIS to experience how time seemed to shift and change depending on situations.

"I'd ask you how it's different, but it's probably not something you can explain. I hope you can't feel old the way humans can." It was probably odd to consider it 'feeling' was the best word he could think of but in some ways JARVIS was more considerate than many people Steve had met.

"I don't think what's fair to me matters. It's what's fair to her." Rubbing the the back of his neck, he struggled for a moment, trying to find answers when there probably wasn't one. "I don't know what would be best for her."
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[personal profile] britishbinary 2015-05-29 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
"It may not be as difficult a concept to explain as you might believe," Jarvis answered more quietly. Yes, it was possible to feel old, he thought, but this would not become a conversation about his own perceived shortcomings and how they related to his ongoing study of humanity. This was about Steve, and it was important. Somewhat overdue, perhaps. The Captain, Jarvis had realized, had very few people he could truly speak to, and he felt somewhat touched that Steve had called him.

"Most people reach this stage, when dealing with a loved one suffering from this condition," he said. "It is difficult to know whether or not the visits do more harm than good. And if I may say, sir, you must not discount the importance of your own well-being."

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