memestocking ([personal profile] memestocking) wrote in [community profile] bakerstreet2013-02-17 02:20 pm
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The OOC RP Discussion Meme

The OOC RP Discussion Meme


[How To]

1. Discuss anything to do with RP-ing - Plots you want to try out, characters, characterization, head canon/fan theories, game ideas, meme ideas, fic and fanart ideas, AU and crossover ideas, Verse/PSL ideas, etc, etc. Game and comm promotions are fine, too.

2. Comments can be anon or non-anon, it's up to you.

3. Please do not bash, flame or name drop any mun or game in a negative fashion. No wanking, please!

4. Have fun!
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new comm

[personal profile] sammmy 2013-02-17 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
For those who didn't feel comfortable posting in [community profile] smuttysws, I have created a new community, [community profile] adultsws. It's the same premise as ssws except there will be no one clique taking over the comm.

We haven't officially opened yet but we are allowing people to join. Just like ssws, there are requirements to join and you have to be approved but it's quick and easy. We hope to have it open for everyone in a day or two.

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
How are you going to keep cliques from forming or taking over in a dressing room?
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Re: new comm

[personal profile] sammmy 2013-02-17 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
We've only ever had one clique take over the comm and they won't be allowed to join.

If another clique tries to take over, it will be stopped. Nobody should be made to feel like they can't post or respond to threads. We'll PM them and tell them to stop. If they don't, we'll post in the comm, and if they still don't, we'll remove them.

I will be adding a rule about cliques. People can have them, you just have to be open to threading with others, too.

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
So you're barring people entry because they played with who they liked to play with? I may not be getting the entire picture here, but has anyone from this clique actually done anything to warrant this other than not tag out?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's a DR. Let people tag who they want, and not tag who they don't want.
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[personal profile] sammmy 2013-02-17 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
There have been plenty of complaints about the clique in that comm and how they don't rp with others. They like their own little group and that's it. They make everyone else hesitant to post. I just decided to leave them in there with their group of people because they have decent threads (most always over 100 comments) and they enjoy playing together.

I do not see what's wrong with keeping them from doing the same thing in the new community. The new comm is the same as the old one, just with a different name.

We advertise the comm for TV, Movies, Books, and OCs. We also state if you're not one of those genres and you'd like to be added, to pm the mods.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
So you automatically bar entry for anyone that may come from video games, animanga, comics, and any other popular RP medium? Already you've alienated the majority of posters in Dreamwidth, since I sincerely doubt very many people will be put off if they have to ask special permission to be added into the community.

On top of that, it's a dressing room, not an actual game. I doubt that clique are the only players in that community. This sounds rather petty of you to do this, and makes me question your ability as a moderator/administrator, to be honest.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
This was a bad decision on your part, and proves that you are a bad mod. You are seriously making an entire new game to get away from some people who weren't harassing anybody, weren't trolling anybody, but were just playing amongst themselves? How petty can you get?
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[personal profile] reeds_rival 2013-02-17 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking as someone from that clique, I was never contacted about any of these complaints. In any discussion I've had among my fellow players, never once was it brought up that anyone ignored someone out of spite. I can't say for certain since I'm not them, but have you done so? As a mod, it's your job to actually make sure these complaints are heard by the offending party before taking action.

When it comes to commenting on a player's post, it always comes down to interest of the topic broached, especially in an environment such as a dressing room. I'll reply to posts that grab my attention, and would make sense for my character(s) to reply to.

As it is right now, it sounds very much like a kneejerk reaction to a problem you haven't addressed with us.

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[personal profile] onthe_threshold 2013-02-17 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling I'm part of this 'clique.'

I wasn't going to reply to this. Frankly I don't bother following communities like this one because I'm too old to care about OOC RP drama. But Hank!mun brought it to my attention, and I would like to address a few things if I may.

First, I apologise for the length of this reply. Secondly, I would like to stress that I, personally, am not upset. People get their feelings hurt in RP - I understand that. If this were a few years ago, I'd probably be VERY upset right now, and be torn between anger and groveling for forgiveness.

But I'm old now. I don't have the inclination to try and make sure that everybody else's imaginary friends wants to play with my imaginary friends.

So. A few points.

1. I have received, in my entire history playing on SSWS on DW or LJ, ONE comment from a person who felt uncomfortable. They seemed under the impression I was in charge of the comm or something. I assured them I was not, that all the muns I knew were very nice and sane people, and that they should feel free to tag or not tag whomever they liked and to never hesitate to send PMs if there was further issue. As far as I know, the issue was resolved.

One other time, I pissed off another mun by accident. There was no PMs or anything - I just backed off and made a note not to bother that person again. They have their right to play as they wish, and I was not respectful enough of that fact.

That's two incidents over the past few years. If there were more, I honestly never knew about them. Like you, I cannoy respond to issues if I don't know they exist.

2. I'll tag anybody. I'll tag stray dogs. That's the reason I joined SSWS, and the reason I post often - I like new character interactions. Are there people I tag with more often? Yes. Either because we've been playing together a long time, or because they always reply.

I understand that real life is busy, and affects RP tags. But if someone consistently does not reply to tags, but posts new entries, I do start to wonder if I should bother trying to initiate conversation.

As for forcing verses on people... I don't play verses. This may be considered a personal failing, but there it is - I don't have the memory or motivation to do multiple verses. So yeah, whoever I tag with is stuck dealing with whatever verse my pups inhabit. But I also know I'm stuck with theirs. If they can muddle together, awesome. If not, I consider it a cosmic hiccup. (I have comic book muses, they're used to that sort of bullshit.)

You cannot ignore a character's back history just to make other people feel comfortable. Even if I ignore the RP history, my pup is never going to fit in perfectly with someone from a universe where there are no superhumans. I would not expect a pup from The Walking Dead to ignore the zombie apocalypse. I don't understand how this is an issue in a comm where fandoms mingle.


I like SSWS. I have told other people to join it, it's fun! I am not angry, or hurt, that this sort of 'well, we'll just keep this one group of people out of the new community' post was made - I understand as a mod you're in a tough position. I am a little disappointed, but you have to deal with issues however you can because that's your job. (Shit, it's not like you get paid.)

I always thought the comm allowed people the freedom to find characters they wished to tag with, to have long and interesting threads with people in their own fandom or not.

Which brings me to...

3. The idea of a 'clique.' I feel, reading the comments here, that some players consider people like myself to be in charge of something. Honey, please. Yes, there are a group of players who enjoy playing together. Consequently, we do plots together. Does that mean you can't spark up a conversation, or bring in plots of your own? No!

There is no concentrated effort among the people I personally play most frequently with to bar other players from having fun. I would like to see MORE people having fun - this is RP! It's a bunch of us playing pretend. It shouldn't be stressful, you guys! We're all gonna be dead someday, let's try and enjoy our hobbies and not let them become a chore.


I cannot speak for the other muns. I can only speak for myself. I try to be as open and accommodating as I possibly can to anyone who wants to tag with me. I try to tag people I don't know, because I remember how intimidated I was when I first joined SSWS, and how scared I was nobody would respond to my threads. Do I tag everyone? No. Some threads either don't interest me, or I have limited time to play and so focus on my own shit. But I do try to be friendly and approachable (as much as you can be when you play total assholes, anyway).

The main reason I'm replying to this mess is twofold. I want to apologise to anyone who was genuinely scared or intimidated by me. I promise, I don't bite, and if you have concerns you can PM me anytime you like. I may not be able to fix everything, but I am always open to dialogue.

Secondly, I wanted to express my belief that SSWS and other dressing room comms are cool places, and that the reason they are cool is because you can play with whomever you want. Don't like a character? Don't talk to them. Delighted to see a Jareth or a Doctor or that kid Joseph Gordon Levitt played in that movie where he gets assaulted in a shower (oh god, my eyes)? Fuck it, talk to them!

Ultimately, we are all responsible for our own pups. We play how we like to play. If feelings are hurt, I like to think that we are all mature enough - and kind enough - to try and find solutions together. I still think SSWS is a great community, with great people in it - I've met so many cool people through it. (And not all in my 'clique.')

I wish you the best of luck in the new comm. I hope people are happy, and post frequently and have a great time. I don't intend to boycott SSWS or any other such nonsense. And I'd like to thank everyone who took the time to read my long, rambling bullshit. Ya'll are great.

Peace. (Orrr... Seacrest, OUT!)
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(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
>I will be adding a rule about cliques. People can have them, you just have to be open to threading with others, too.


it's a fucking dressing room

get over your pathetic self

people can play with whoever they want to play with

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I myself am looking forward to this. It came to a point where I felt there was no reason to post in smuttysws seeing as if you weren't certain people your posts went unanswered.

So I await this comm to open and see how things go, if it goes well I'll move more characters over to it.

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
so play with other characters in the comm.

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why aren't you answering posts

Serious question. Why do you make post upon post, but never answer? THAT is why you don't get replies. The people who are a "clique" get replies because unlike you, they tag out.

There is no problem other than your inability to tag out and your wish that everyone come to YOU YOU YOU. I wouldn't tag you, either, and I am in no clique. People who don't tag out deserve no tags, as simple as that.

Just tossing in my two cents.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I know exactly which group of people the OP is talking about, and as someone on the outside of that circle, I don't the fuss. Not too long ago, my female character had a "convo only" entry in SSWS, and two of the female characters from that clique tagged back and forth with me with no problem.

I had never interacted with them before. Maybe they'd gotten word of their reputation and were trying to do damage control by tagging an outsider, I don't know, but I've never had an issue with them. So perhaps YMMV?

Just the same, good luck with the new community, OP.

Just tossing in my two cents.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I know exactly which group of people the OP is talking about, and as someone on the outside of that circle, I don't see the fuss. Not too long ago, my female character had a "convo only" entry in SSWS, and two of the female characters from that clique tagged back and forth with me with no problem.

I had never interacted with them before. Maybe they'd gotten word of their reputation and were trying to do damage control by tagging an outsider, I don't know, but I've never had an issue with them. So perhaps YMMV?

Just the same, good luck with the new community, OP.

Re: new comm

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[community profile] wayswithwords already exists, the mods seem nice, and there's no restrictions on joining or posting format, and no word limit. I'm going to transition there rather than any other "new" smuttysws with another name. They have tags too to help flag preferences. I just hope more people utilize it. The word just needs to get out more to people who enjoy DR playing. Posts aren't locked either just because they have adult content.
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regarding all this 'clique' talk...

[personal profile] pixiesized 2013-02-18 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
In all honesty, I don’t think I could possibly give less of a fuck about this as I do right now. Role-playing is a hobby and as a hobby, I make it as stress-free and drama-free as possible but seeing as I’m certain I’m a part of this little trouble-causing ‘clique,’ I feel like I need to speak up and defend myself a little. Explain things that maybe people have missed.

SSWS is a dressing room. It’s not a game, there was no application to fill out, there is no restriction on who each person plays, there is no requirement for me to interact with people I don’t want to interact with, and there is no requirement for others to interact with me or my characters. Yes, there is a pretty solid group of people who seem rather exclusive, but are we a clique? God, no. I can’t speak for everyone else, but outside of one or two OOC messages sent to a few muns, I honestly only interact with one person out of character and I’m sure it’s pretty obvious who that is. We’re a group of people RPing together with characters that have, in most cases, built up CR for over the last year. I think each and every person I RP with is wonderful, but I do not consider myself close friends with any of them. (Aside from the aforementioned person.) We don’t hang out in Skype or AIM shit talking people, we don’t go around black listing characters – our characters simply have a long history, and I don’t think anyone should take offense because of that.

I’ve been a part of a clique before. They’re nasty, vicious little things that are more trouble than they’re worth and if I, at any time, felt like I was a part of some big SSWS clique I’d probably bow out. I’m a fucking adult and I’m not about to waste my time participating in some MIDDLE school bullshit. I chose a DR over an actual game because I wanted this to be as easy and fun as possible. I don’t even check anon posts or secret comms because I find it just fuels the drama I’ve been trying to avoid.

Admittedly, I am notorious for coming off as a bitch. That’s fine, I’m used to it. It literally happens in every fandom, group, or game I’ve belonged to. I come off as stuck up, I stick with my little group of friends, and I manage to make others feel alienated. The funny part, to me, is that I’m actually incredibly socially awkward and have a hard time making friends. I try my best to reply to everyone, I reply to posts that catch my eye, and if I ever thread drop it’s never personal. Usually I find myself thread dropping because my character simply doesn’t have anything else to say or doesn’t know how to respond. There have been a few instances where I haven’t replied, but for the most part it’s because the tag didn’t make sense. I’m not going to beat myself up over my inability to keep a thread going and I don’t feel like I should be blamed for that, either. I certainly wouldn’t blame you.

In retrospect, I feel like this is just a bunch of people whining because they were never able to find a place to fit in amongst the influx of Marvel RPers that came with the release of The Avengers last summer. There is no one Iron Man, one Captain America, one Thor – there are multiples of all these characters and I try my hardest to interact with all of them without getting too deep into my Wasp’s RP history. If I don’t connect with them, I don’t connect with them and that isn’t my fault.

I feel like this is less about the ‘clique’ and more about the people outside of the ‘clique.’ I feel like those of you who are feeling left out haven’t made an effort to be involved. I can’t speak for everyone, but my inbox is always open and I happily encourage people to PM me and ask me what’s going on with something they may not understand about my character or what she’s been up to in the last year. I play a character who wasn’t in the films, and I’ve encourage several people to message me in the past in order to establish some sort of history, because in my head, Janet has some sort of history with each person in the Marvel universe, whether or not they officially exist within the MCU. If you can’t be assed to do that, then I honestly don’t know what to say other than lighten up, it’s just role-playing.
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very ot

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
i'm curious about why the la pb for a fairly common comic character.
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OT comments are always loved though~

[personal profile] pixiesized 2013-02-18 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
i'm confused by your comment, dear -- clarify, please? :3

Re: OT comments are always loved though~

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
da but i guess to explain before cursing comes in:

youre playing janet van dyne. who is as we all know wasp from marvel and she has a decent amount of icons to choose from thanks to a:emh, recent comics releases and stuff. she has a distinct outfit and look for her incarnation thanks to her wasp theme and powers.

youre choosing a, from my perspective is all, to represent her with a rather generic and bland woman of the season. its confusing is all but not a big deal to me besides wondering why anyone would want to do that.
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[personal profile] pixiesized 2013-02-18 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
ooph, no wait, i got it. sorry, brain fart. there are a lot of reasons, including the fact that i'm weird and i couldn't deal with having to use images drawn by multiple artists when each draws janet their own, unique way. technically, she's supposed to be a MCU-ified version of the character and since janet hasn't made her way into the films yet, there's no official actress to use.

also: ginnifer goodwin is cute as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
oh never mind my comment from above. i see this now. excuse my brainfart.
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[personal profile] pixiesized 2013-02-18 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
it's fine, we all have them. i had one. though, since i was already typing it up? personally, i can't stand the art in earth's mightiest heroes. enjoyed the show, but the art style isn't for me. it's a kid's show and the art is bright and colorful. not exactly the vibe i'm going for with my character. also, what recent comic releases? janet has been "dead" for the last few years. she was brought back for three issues this last fall, but has only made a single, one-panel appearance since. she won't be returning to the comics officially until next month.

and if you are calling ginnifer a flavor of the month sort of pick, i've actually been following her since win a date with tad hamilton and have been using her as janet for almost a year. since i've been using ginny as janet, she's actually become a rather popular fan-casting choice within the fandom and there are a few photo comparisons on tumblr that explain exactly why. i'm sad to hear you think she's ~generic and bland because i think she's perfect, but different strokes and all that. i've been reading comics since i was a kid and janet has always been one of my favorites for many reasons. i wouldn't play a character that i wasn't passionate about and i wouldn't pick an actress i didn't feel was a perfect choice. as much as i appreciate your opinion, i just sort of feel that all that really should matter is that i love the actress i picked. :)

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that's good enough for me!

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